He told his disciples that some of them would still be alive when he returns, so despite what we have been taught many of us believe that he did indeed come back and took his disciples to the place that he's promised to prepare for them and it happened around AD 70 when the Romans fulfilled the prophesy of Jesus regarding the leveling of Jerusalem. Otherwise we would have to assume Jesus was either lying or ignorant which does not sit well with me.
Interesting! I remember writing a series of undergraduate essays on the Eschatological mysteries back in the day — another intriguing question being whether Paul changed his mind about what he thought (he certainly appears to, comparing the early and late letters)
It would be interesting to know if that was before or after his visit to the 7th Heaven which I expect would have given him, or anyone, a different perspective.
As 2 Thessalonians is usually dated earlier than 2 Corinthians, I think that remains completely open to question. When he writes in 2 Corinthians, is he really writing about himself not his ‘friend’? It seems pretty likely he is. But in any case, he gives no clue as to how much earlier the experience he writes about took place. (So many questions I’d love to ask him . . . ! )
He told his disciples that some of them would still be alive when he returns, so despite what we have been taught many of us believe that he did indeed come back and took his disciples to the place that he's promised to prepare for them and it happened around AD 70 when the Romans fulfilled the prophesy of Jesus regarding the leveling of Jerusalem. Otherwise we would have to assume Jesus was either lying or ignorant which does not sit well with me.
Interesting! I remember writing a series of undergraduate essays on the Eschatological mysteries back in the day — another intriguing question being whether Paul changed his mind about what he thought (he certainly appears to, comparing the early and late letters)
It would be interesting to know if that was before or after his visit to the 7th Heaven which I expect would have given him, or anyone, a different perspective.
As 2 Thessalonians is usually dated earlier than 2 Corinthians, I think that remains completely open to question. When he writes in 2 Corinthians, is he really writing about himself not his ‘friend’? It seems pretty likely he is. But in any case, he gives no clue as to how much earlier the experience he writes about took place. (So many questions I’d love to ask him . . . ! )